Air Jordan 4 Black/Red Countdown Pack
 While many Jordan heads will be looking forward to the 24th of this month when the Carmine Jordan 6 returns, there are just as many looking forward to the return of the Black/Red Jordan 4 in July. Packaged with the Jordan 19, it goes without much discussion that lines will form for the Jordan 4 part of the pack. Only two times prior were these released with the first being in 1989 and a year shy of a decade ago in 1999.
The Jordan 4 underwent some silhouette shape changes since returning in 2004, but besides that and the missing “Nike Air”, the shoes are on point. Truly a classic that should not be slept on. Pics thanks to footalog.
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Air Jordan 4 Black/Red from Countdown Package
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red from Countdown Package
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red without Nike Air
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red new netting
Air Jordan 4 Black/Red tongue
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these shoes are hotttt! getting these for sure!!!!
Comment by J-prince. — May 14, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
Hmmmmm these shoes look very fishy JB…..very different
Comment by Jiggz — May 14, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
mannn. kinda disappointed cuz the 1999 retro looks alot different from these. but i love these and there still hot so im gettin emm
Comment by richay — May 14, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
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Comment by NEEF — May 14, 2008 @ 2:06 pm
well, i like them. but i’ll be damned if i ever get a pair of 18’s,19’s,20’s, or 21’s. the 22’s are ok. but so far the only package where i like both shoes are the 14-9’s. i like my 13-10’s but i never wore the 10’s yet. stil haven’t figured out what to do with them yet.anyways. i would prefer him releasing these j’s for a lil more as 1 pair than buying both. i would pay 220 for these, maybe a lil more.my friend just sold his 21’s from the 21 2 package for 120. he’s taking a loss, but thats wat im going to start doing too. i cant wait for the 11-12s. ooooo baby, those will sell out quick.
Comment by bkbigjay — May 14, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
the jumpman on the back tab is verrrrryyyy ugly.
Comment by eightandyeight — May 14, 2008 @ 2:11 pm
not true to the OG or ‘99 but still going to be copped. maybe 2x. can’t wait for you to get em Matt and do a compair shot. maybe with OG’s and ’99s?!?! I know you have them..
Comment by jibby — May 14, 2008 @ 2:19 pm
KINDA SUS NASTY WENT THIS WAY<<<<<<<<<<<<
Comment by Nasty_Naj — May 14, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
Just can’t pass it. Probably my absolute favorite jordan. I can see that its not the same as the older versions and I hear the quality isn’t that good, but I still just can’t pass it.
Comment by BKost — May 14, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
NIKE a i r >>>>> jumpman
still one of the hottest retros to date(happy that i got the 99’s)
Comment by piff — May 14, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
Neh!!… I got the OG’s from 1999. And the 19’s are whack. They need to go back to releasing the retros only. Life would b soo much easier.
Comment by Jerronimo — May 14, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
i got 3 pairs of these from the fugazi spot for $50 each…. he should brought a different color.
Comment by Brave — May 14, 2008 @ 2:55 pm
I like everything bout these cept for da back tab. these are a must cop for me
Comment by soulie17 — May 14, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
FLY AS FCUK!
most deff im coppin’ these… MAD SEXII.
Comment by JESS'AYE BAYBAY! — May 14, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
god dayuuumm!!! cant wait fur these mane.. already got 43 pairs in ma collection but imma still get these .. yadadamean…
Comment by Mars — May 14, 2008 @ 3:15 pm
wow those r FIREEE!!!
Comment by Fris — May 14, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
Ok…
I have the Jordan 4 from 1999 deadstocked in perfect condition. Someone make me an offer because the one coming out in July pales in comparison. Imagine how you would straight herb everyone else on launch day. I still have the Hibbett Sports sales reciept.
Comment by J.King — May 14, 2008 @ 3:57 pm
^ email sent
Comment by Nice Kicks — May 14, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
It just aint the same I need the nike air on the back and the bottom, without it they look like the fakes thats flooded the flea market… it’s hard but I have 2 pass
Comment by Keiso — May 14, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
Now you to can have authentic Jordans that look like fakes.
Comment by someshoeguy — May 14, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
DEF GON B GOT!
Comment by solesaved — May 14, 2008 @ 5:40 pm
These are prolly my fave of all time but, the jumpman on the back aint lookin right without the nike air under it….looks kinda fake….but still a must cop….still want them to drop the white joints too…
Comment by jintao — May 14, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
wish i could cop this pack
Comment by greenmaker24 — May 14, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
a LIL diff JB but im extremely excited!!
Comment by Jerry — May 14, 2008 @ 5:57 pm
I think they shudda brought out tha original white/cement colorway. But these are a definite cop. anybody knows the colorway for the 19’s?
Comment by irunthachi92 — May 14, 2008 @ 6:15 pm
haha, i already have the white cements and will be copping the 1999 breds soon. 08 breds are so wack with the jumpman, and im sure a bunch of scrubs will be rocking the jumpman 4s. easy pass imo.
Comment by JT — May 14, 2008 @ 6:39 pm
i got 3 pairs of these from the fugazi spot for $50 each…. he should brought a different color.
Comment by Brave — May 14, 2008
Brave ^^^^ WHAT A DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO DELIBERATELY BUY A PAIR OF FAKE JORDANS IS RIDICULOUS
Comment by bkbigjay — May 14, 2008 @ 8:50 pm
getting these are crack right here
Comment by TOAST JORDAN — May 14, 2008 @ 9:41 pm
hot got to have these
Comment by TOAST JORDAN — May 14, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Man these aight but ima have to pass on these I hate the 19s with a passion I not finna waste bread for some JUMPMAN bred’s or no ugly 19’s
Comment by kickhead — May 14, 2008 @ 9:45 pm
Even though I’ll be purchasing this pack, I’m STILL gonna be after a pair of the ‘99 Retro IV’s.
The colorway alone on these are enough for me to want them. Of course, they won’t have “Nike Air” on them and of course there’s gonna be some differences (but not many) in the designing of these vs. the OG 89’s and Retro IV from 1999, but you all have to remember… it’s 2008!
As I’ve said on KATC and someone said here, they should’ve dropped the white/cement IV — too many fake B/Red’s out now with the “Nike Air” and Jumpman on the tabs.
But yes, imagine how many people you’d sh*t on when you rock your ‘99 IV’s, freshly kept and DS next to someone with these on. Reason I’ll still be after those!
+1 to my stack.
Comment by Darneezy — May 14, 2008 @ 10:16 pm
deff look different from the OG’s..like da OG’s better..kinda ruined them to me!!
Comment by Frank — May 14, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
yea th OG’s were better but ill admit im still down to grab a pair of these…but why does JB have to keep releasing them in packages!?!?!
Comment by soleful — May 14, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
PASS!!!
Comment by MJSF — May 14, 2008 @ 10:41 pm
Why not???
Comment by Dani@23 — May 14, 2008 @ 10:54 pm
We definitely need (if possible) an OG + Retro ‘99 + Re-Retro comparison.
Because I’m really not seeing much a difference in this shoe vs. the 99’s I see on eBay.
I mean, the red is more bright in the pics, but photos usually do make colors appear more vibrant.
Comment by Darneezy — May 14, 2008 @ 10:58 pm
MJSF, you must have the OG’s or 99’s? Or either you’re in process of purchasing a pair of those listed…
Comment by Darneezy — May 14, 2008 @ 10:59 pm
JB keeps puttin the kicks with heat with the weakest ones in the collection… drop these solo or team em up with the white OG’S!!! The 19’s are the hella ugly no matter what color they be droppin with these….
Comment by jintao — May 15, 2008 @ 12:22 am
These are a must to have for me I got to have them.
Comment by kpala — May 15, 2008 @ 12:34 am
*****I GOT A BRILLIANT IDEA, SINCE KNOWBODY WANTS A PAIR OF 19s, KEEP YOUR MONEY AND JUST SPEND IT ALL ON A REAL PAIR OF IVs INSTEAD OF THE SWAPMEET LOOKING ONES IN THE PACK, SINCE BASICALLY YOUR PAYING 300 FOR THOSE ANYWAY,,YOU CAN FIND A GOOD PAIR ON RIF OR EBAY FOR THAT MUCH, AND GUESS WHAT, THE MESH WONT BE HORIZONTAL AND STUCK TO THE SHOE, IT WILL FIT PROPERLY ACROSS THE INSTEP, AND IT WILL SAY NIKE AIR ON THE BACK,,THATS THE WIN WIN
Comment by gold — May 15, 2008 @ 1:06 am
please let the 19’s the 4’s come with be strapless.
Comment by jon — May 15, 2008 @ 3:01 am
They are ok. If anybody wants a pair of 99 retros in mint condition get at me. Also blk/red aj6’s willing to let go of the wht/red/green spiz’ikes as well
Comment by OG jordan fan 4 life — May 15, 2008 @ 4:28 am
i wish y’all would bring back the white and cement 4’s that is on the retro card
Comment by P Dark — May 15, 2008 @ 6:38 am
NICE I MUST COPP FOR ME…I LIKE THE JUMP MAN ON THE BACK BETTER THAN THE NUIKE AIR…THIS IS WHAT IT TIS SO DEAL WITH IT….CLASSIC AND FIRE AS HELL!!!!!! THE JUMP MAN LOGO IS THE WHATS JORDAN IS PRESENT AND THE FUTURE….
Comment by Air Jedi — May 15, 2008 @ 6:55 am
Why can’t they cut these a lil bit higher like the OG’s?
Comment by SoleJ.A.H. — May 15, 2008 @ 7:54 am
I have to get this shoe it’s a must, them boys are cold
Comment by the-boi — May 15, 2008 @ 8:05 am
FIREEEE !!! def not missing out on this pack !
keep the heat coming !!
Comment by ruben — May 15, 2008 @ 9:00 am
These IVs look pretty hot but I can’t stand the Jumpman logo on the back. I’m definitely not feeling JB retroing all the old jordans with the cheesy jumpman logo to replace the Nike Air. Will definitely pickup these and probably sell the 19s which are the ugliest jordans ever!
Comment by Oldskoolkicksboi — May 15, 2008 @ 11:11 am
werd the jumpman logo messes it up…i cant say they not cause they are hot kicks..but for the ppl that have da OG’s or 99’s it sucks cause noe every dude nd they mom is gunna cop des nd they wont be classics no more..same thing wit the 7’s comin out.
Comment by Frank — May 15, 2008 @ 11:17 am
they are alrite
nike air needs to be there cuz they look fake
wat am i going to do with my 99s?
Comment by troy — May 15, 2008 @ 12:48 pm
Will pick these kicks up BUT I agree with Frank cuz every cat on the block will rock these so those with the retro 99s and og joints like me won’t want to wear them hard. Bring back the white cement 4s instead..
Comment by funkdoc — May 15, 2008 @ 1:41 pm
new retros suck, they fit terrible. they fit on your foot like someone sat a stack of bucks on them, and there is a huge difference with the new wings…i wont be coppin these, na actually i might, the indoor by my house has em for $80
Comment by gold — May 15, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
After all of the packages are released with the world of Retro J’s be gone forever? If so that will be one of the saddest days in shoe history. Without the retro J’s the Jordan brand puts out some suspect shoes. Just my opinion.
Comment by atxboy25 — May 15, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
kinda wack I needs that nike air on the back. plus the quality a’int the same PASS.
Comment by twebb — May 15, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
My 1999 pair is sz 13.
Comment by J.King — May 15, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
ooohhhh fo sho!
Comment by bigwes — May 15, 2008 @ 2:51 pm
needs the nike on the back but they are hot
Comment by zachg — May 15, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
shoes look fake compare to my 99 retros.not feeling the jumpman and they look cheap!!as much as i love these shoes i will pass!!!JB GET WITH MAKING QUALITY SHOES!!!!!!
Comment by RSAN — May 15, 2008 @ 3:04 pm
these look good only thing tha gets me is the jumpman logo I mean I love that logo on the tounge of the shoe not on the heel jb bring back the nike air
Comment by c18st — May 15, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
these look good only thing that gets me is the jumpman logo I mean I love that logo on the tounge of the shoe not on the heel jb bring back the nike air
Comment by c18st — May 15, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
GOT 2 GIT UM………..
Comment by Ju — May 15, 2008 @ 5:37 pm
hopefully they are not made with the same quality of the past retros
Comment by joy — May 15, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
these r fresh
Comment by young baller — May 15, 2008 @ 7:49 pm
fire red 4’s heat!!!!!
Comment by tp da cool kid — May 15, 2008 @ 8:41 pm
4s re release. nuff said.
Comment by tjholmes26 — May 15, 2008 @ 10:12 pm
Jerronimo the OG’s came out wayyy before 1999 just to let you know. I had them
Comment by true — May 15, 2008 @ 10:22 pm
exactly…now i got both the OG’s and the 99’s..and now i cant even rock dem no more cause again every dude nd they momz is gunna have umm nd they not gunna no the diff between the OG or the 99’s..and then its jus another dude with the 4’s….JB stop killin the classics!!!
Comment by Frank — May 15, 2008 @ 10:53 pm
Pass, they don’t look right…:(
Comment by oldjumpman35 — May 15, 2008 @ 11:46 pm
got to cop
Comment by dizzle313 — May 17, 2008 @ 11:37 am
Ok, so I did my own little EXTENSIVE research on the designs (OG-Retro ‘99-Present)
I noticed the length and height of them, which I thought was the only other visual difference there could be, aside from the obvious (No “Nike Air”).
But there’s not much “different” with these than that above (that I could see). The air unit is longer, the tongue is longer, but that’s all due to length and height. Length of the Re-Retroed IV is longer than the ‘99 Retro and is cut lower than them as well.
Still, nonetheless; it’s still cop worthy.
Comment by Darneezy — May 18, 2008 @ 6:19 am
Haha. Can’t wait to rock my ’99s when these come out. Weakass JUMPMAN!
Comment by Nikadocious — May 18, 2008 @ 12:12 pm
Yo, there definently phat, but not $310 phat. They made so many of the 4’s and this pair, though their not, look fake. I’m tired of the countdown pack. The Economy is F****d up!!
Comment by peter — May 18, 2008 @ 12:39 pm
these are allright but would prefer tha motorsport version white blue black 4s those r hot these just overplayed man for real
Comment by way2kool89 — May 19, 2008 @ 10:26 am
good man JB is getting smarter i know you guys have seen me ripping JB a new one alot but i give respect to JB on these def buying i see they threw bootleggers off buy changing the wing piece from hard plastic by going with the rubber piece and changing the leather to the hard rubber same as they did with the new model spiz’ikes not only does this throw bootleggers off but the older plastic piece’s used to break sometimes and they used to flop around alot if you dont have them tied tight and that just looks sloppy who wants that to happen but now with the newer hard rubber pieces it takes alot for them to break unless your trying to break them also it has a nicer clean look very sleek ads on to the shoe kudos for JB this is what i like to see like they did a very good job with the re release on the carmine 6 i was impressed with them good painting good quality and etc..
Comment by frescko — May 20, 2008 @ 1:14 am
Ima cop. But if anyone doesn’t want one pair or something, hit me on AIM: SamthatFreshMan. I’m always down for another pair of Bred 4’s or the 19’s. Hit me if you have a Sz 9-10.5 And these may look fake, but I’ve always wanted a pair of Bred 4’s but 200+ for the older retros’ too much.
Comment by DeceasedSole — May 20, 2008 @ 10:24 am
Addin to tha collection.
Comment by MackTastic — May 21, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
My brother had both pair or the 1999 Retro IVs, this color and the white/cement and my dad destroyed both of them a few years later. I like the colorway and I dont mind the mesh made into the shoes but if Jordan Brand coulda stuck the Nike Air logo on the back of one pair or retro Jordans it shoulda been these because it will give this retro IV the classic look of the OG or the 1999 Retro of the IV to a slightly modified IV. I have seen fakes made like these but the quality of these looks waaaaayy better!
Comment by DFresh — May 22, 2008 @ 12:18 am
well! all i can say with this one is nice.BUT if you are a shoe fanatic..You can feel the difference! feel the original one(1999) and this one..(im talking about the sole and the rubber).if it’s only for casual use,buy this shoes but if you are going to wear them or play with it.i’d rather go with the original ones.
Comment by troy — May 23, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
Ok, so what do the 19s that are coming out with that package look like? This is probably the only pack worth getting that’s come out this year so far. I can’t wait for the 3/20 & 12/11 packages. They will be copp’d!
Comment by willywill — May 24, 2008 @ 6:35 pm
wow da 99’s look way better nd tha 19n’s r dat ugliest kicks i ever seen….even worse dan pumas
Comment by brian — May 31, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
Its a crime that they had to pair the 4’s with the 19’s.
Comment by terence — June 6, 2008 @ 7:42 pm
I’m feelin’ da OG 4’s, but da OG 19’s don’t get 2 much love from me. I wish they would’ve put da Midwest white/red 19’s in da pack. Then it would’ve been a definite cop for me.
Comment by hotboy16 — July 2, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
Question? why is it that the Air Jordan tag on the inside is upside down…I don’t get it? (excuse my ignorance)
Comment by jerronimo — July 3, 2008 @ 1:44 pm